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gopher29 06-21-2006 09:52 PM

anybody collect Nazi silver coins from the 1930s
 
I recently scored some of these Nazi silver coins on Ebay and at a local gunshow. The 5 Reichmark coins are 90% silver and the 2 Reichmark coins are 62.5%. Anybody else like these silver coins?

http://home.comcast.net/~yalim01/reich.jpg

Maddie 06-21-2006 10:35 PM

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I have a few, more because I'm a history geek than for PM value.

Teslaairgap 06-21-2006 11:07 PM

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Thats a good investment or collector item.
Ebay had some Mason Knights Templar items from 1910-1920? that were
interesting.
I'll check for those coins if I remember.
I have some stamps from the war era. My dad was a big stamp collector, somehow it was sold off and I had to reconstruct it.
Some web sites post them, interesting history.

Prometheus 06-21-2006 11:19 PM

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I've got two of the 5 Reichmark coins and one 2 mark coin. Defintaely good stuff and I'm going to pick up more here and there when the prices are good.
:coolbeer:

Ardent Listener 06-22-2006 10:01 PM

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No nazi coins, but I got a silver S.S. ring.

How did you like the nazi gold bar in the James Bond movie Goldfinger?

Anty Ep 08-25-2006 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ardent Listener (Post 281271)
No nazi coins, but I got a silver S.S. ring.

How do you know its provenance? Have you had it appraised?

There are tons of replicas of these rings out there, mass produced and sold on the internet for 70 - $150 each http://www.pzg.biz/rings_ss_honor.htm

But one that had a provable provenance, would be far, far more valuable than that.

here is one for $7,500
http://www.antiqnet.com/detail,rare-...ed,416799.html

blueice 08-25-2006 11:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gopher29 (Post 280369)
I recently scored some of these Nazi silver coins on Ebay and at a local gunshow. The 5 Reichmark coins are 90% silver and the 2 Reichmark coins are 62.5%. Anybody else like these silver coins?

Ponce Cuba, is a wholeseller of these coins. In fact, he has the only set of Official Welcome to Auschwitz schweins.

silverwood 08-26-2006 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 341541)
How do you know its provenance? Have you had it appraised?

There are tons of replicas of these rings out there, mass produced and sold on the internet for 70 - $150 each http://www.pzg.biz/rings_ss_honor.htm

But one that had a provable provenance, would be far, far more valuable than that.

here is one for $7,500
http://www.antiqnet.com/detail,rare-...ed,416799.html

Anty, in 1979 I went to the Octoberfest in Munich. While shopping around I came across an antique dealer and I purchased one of those SS rings. I was looking for Nazi uniforms and he told me they were very hard to come by. All he had was this ring. How do you verify that it is authentic? I also came across a coin dealer and I loaded up on all the different years and mint marks in the best condition he had of the 3rd Reich 2 and 5 mark silver coins.

Anty Ep 08-26-2006 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blueice (Post 341546)
Ponce Cuba, is a wholeseller of these coins. In fact, he has the only set of Official Welcome to Auschwitz schweins.

You may be joking, but in fact the inmates had an official currency that was circulated within the camp or so I have heard. Those would indeed be valuable collectibles at this time.

Anty Ep 08-26-2006 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by silverwood (Post 341578)
Anty, in 1979 I went to the Octoberfest in Munich. While shopping around I came across an antique dealer and I purchased one of those SS rings. I was looking for Nazi uniforms and he told me they were very hard to come by. All he had was this ring. How do you verify that it is authentic? I also came across a coin dealer and I loaded up on all the different years and mint marks in the best condition he had of the 3rd Reich 2 and 5 mark silver coins.

I think you would have to either get in touch with that dealer and ask him where he got it, or take it to some kind of qualified appraiser and find out if there are any indicators that may show whether it is genuine or a replica, such as small proof marks and so forth.

I hope you didnt pay too much!

If anybody wants to read a book that describes the Runic features of this ring and their symbolic significance, I direct you to the book about "Weisthor" Karl Maria Wiligut, which I think was authored by Michael Moynihan. I can't recall the title at the moment, but it shouldnt be too hard to find on amazon.

Jasper 08-26-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 341768)
... in fact the inmates had an official currency that was circulated within the camp or so I have heard. Those would indeed be valuable collectibles at this time.

Check out eBay pages for CONCENTRATION CAMP MONEY:

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/685...spagenameZWDVW

Anty Ep 08-26-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasper (Post 341791)
Check out eBay pages for CONCENTRATION CAMP MONEY:

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/685...spagenameZWDVW

Most interesting, thanks!

Kind of flies in the face of the whole "death camp" concept, doesnt it?

Big_Rob 08-26-2006 12:27 PM

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Ive got a few. I got them for my WW2 collection

blueice 08-27-2006 02:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 341768)
You may be joking, but in fact the inmates had an official currency that was circulated within the camp or so I have heard. Those would indeed be valuable collectibles at this time.

Never heard that AE but could be true.

Anty Ep 09-07-2006 09:30 AM

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Here is a badass website with lots of Nazi replica jewelry. Take a look at the cool meander-- "Greek key" if you will-- on this SS engagement ring.

http://www.germaniainternational.com/ss23.html

http://www.germaniainternational.com...mentring01.jpg

Meander - Origin of term

The term derives from the Maeander River river in Turkey, characterised by a very convoluted path. As such, early usage of the term, from the late 1500s, referred to convoluted and windy speech and ideas, as well as the geomorphological feature. The river in Turkey is called Menderes River, south of Izmir, near the ancient Greek town of Miletos.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Ancient-G...QQcmdZViewItem

http://hellenic-art.com/jewel/a388.jpg

Worldmariner 09-21-2006 03:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gopher29 (Post 280369)
I recently scored some of these Nazi silver coins on Ebay and at a local gunshow. The 5 Reichmark coins are 90% silver and the 2 Reichmark coins are 62.5%. Anybody else like these silver coins?

http://home.comcast.net/~yalim01/reich.jpg

Yes, silver. I have many myself. Research will tell you more about the silver content. :) Some are zinc though.... So becareful!! Buy a book on coins! See a dealer!!
BEWARE!!!!!! DANGER!!!!! WARNING!!!!
The Nazis minted no GOLD coins except for SS pocket medallions. Many of these coins pictured were plated with something gold colored. THEY ARE NOT GOLD!

negative1 02-05-2007 02:25 PM

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The Third Reich is a great area to collect! Working on a complete set now. Even found a dealer with a German bank bag full of 2 and 5 mark coins from the denazifacation era.

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gutso 02-05-2007 02:40 PM

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Hi Specialists.

In Germany the silver coins of that dark nazi eara are also still collected by lots of freaks.

But should't it be more interesting for you to collect the "Joachimsthaler" which is the bohemian grandfather of the Silver-Dollar?

Joachimsthal is next to Germany - only a few miles from here, Nuremberg, where I live.

Of course I have also a big box with that 5 Reichsmark coins (with Hindenburg and the "gedaechtniskirche" on the back, not with that sad eagle ... ).

But the " i - spot " in a collection could be a really rare coin from Joachimsthal!


Greetings from Germany!
gutso

Wyldwil 02-05-2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gutso (Post 499409)
Hi Specialists.

In Germany the silver coins of that dark nazi eara are also still collected by lots of freaks.

But should't it be more interesting for you to collect the "Joachimsthaler" which is the bohemian grandfather of the Silver-Dollar?

Joachimsthal is next to Germany - only a few miles from here, Nuremberg, where I live.

Of course I have also a big box with that 5 Reichsmark coins (with Hindenburg and the "gedaechtniskirche" on the back, not with that sad eagle ... ).

But the " i - spot " in a collection could be a really rare coin from Joachimsthal!


Greetings from Germany!
gutso

Cool! Currently nothing comes up for a "Joachimsthaler" on E-bay.
Where do you suggest I would aquire one of these coins?? Welcome to GIM.

gutso 02-05-2007 03:06 PM

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Hi, thank you for your nice introducement!

I myself did only see these coins in two auctions the last three years: one in Switzerland (Suisse) and one in England.

A third one in France turned out to be a offer without the willing to sell below a fix-price of abt. 5000 $. Thats nonsense even for fanatic collectors.

With a little luck you could be able to have a grip at abt. 2000 $ and below.

Ebay for sure is the wrong place, at the moment, I checked this out since 4 years.

But there you can buy nice replicas of these coins.
Not bad, to get an idea of their appearance!


Greetings from Germany,
gutso

negative1 02-05-2007 03:45 PM

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The Joachimsthaler sounds like a tough coin to find. For the hard to find coins I collect hi end Alexander the Great and Lysimachos tets (like the one in my avatar).

I recommend Third Reich 5 marks because of the shortness and ease of the set. Whatever your feelings are about the era it's still a popular coin series. The only thing that would be mildly challenging would be a set in 65+.

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gutso 02-05-2007 04:01 PM

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Hi 1*(-1)

Of course I understood the reason, why collecting these coins is an opportunity.

My home is near the Ex Marrell Barracks in Nuremberg, where the SS used to teach their pupils.

2 Miles away is the Collosseum and the Zeppelinfield.
Where the Lightdome had been initiated and the US Troops later then shouted "I wanna be your drill instructor!" ...

I already ate Garlic-Pizzas with my US friends at the Jurrassic Tribune where Hitler spoke to his "fans". Although we didn't forget, where we are sitting.

At the other side of the tribune, in the summer, they are playing tennis against the jurassic walls.
Plick Plock Plick Plock.

Very nice, to listen to!


But the bombs have scratched their curves in the memories, here.
Never forget, that people paid with that coins.

Some did pay for their lives.


Greetings from Germany,
gutso

AG Capone 02-05-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Anty Ep (Post 341541)
How do you know its provenance? Have you had it appraised?

There are tons of replicas of these rings out there, mass produced and sold on the internet for 70 - $150 each http://www.pzg.biz/rings_ss_honor.htm

But one that had a provable provenance, would be far, far more valuable than that.

here is one for $7,500
http://www.antiqnet.com/detail,rare-...ed,416799.html

Man, you're way too into the NAZI thing.:elefant:

Anty Ep 02-05-2007 05:51 PM

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this from a guy with a syphylitic, murdering rum runner for an avatar?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AG Capone (Post 499532)
Man, you're way too into the NAZI thing.:elefant:

hey man that was 5 minutes using "google"

lookee what I just found now, I think you will like this graphic devoted to "uncle Wolf"

http://www.cringehumor.net/forums/im...s/hitler02.gif now this too, think peter sellers in that kubrick film http://www.cringehumor.net/forums/im...iscientist.gif

gutso 02-05-2007 06:35 PM

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Hi!

One thing I will not understand is the use of epileptic grafics in the postings here.

If I have got to say anything its in the way to write, not the way to emphasise in grafics ... .


Sorry please understand, the USA had been the source of every thing I concerned to love, critizise or even know.

So far.-

Is that really true!?


Greetings from Germany,
gutso

Anty Ep 02-05-2007 06:53 PM

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Herr Gutso,

I have written far too many words in my life for far to small of an impact... I prefer now to litter my posts with idiotic "smilies"

You may wish to peruse this website to bring yourself up to speed on this:

http://www.smiliemania.de/

Auf Wiedersehen!

gutso 02-06-2007 06:06 AM

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Nice Talk!

But I still don't understand the focus on that "brown period".
For me coins like the Joachimsthaler Groschen of 1520, the Ducatoon of Amsterdam (1601) and the Pillar Dollars and Continental Dollars from 1650-at last 1776 are much more of interest.
Thats all, what I wanted to say.
They reflect greater history. I know what I say.

See you!


Greetings from germany,
gutso

negative1 02-06-2007 09:25 PM

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I do like the looks of the Potsdam 5 mark coins. I just bagged this one for $15.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/472149-big.JPG

It's the key to that set. I know it's circulated but with a mintage of 244,000 I think it was a deal.

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Kahlil Gibran 02-06-2007 09:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gutso (Post 499409)
In Germany the silver coins of that dark nazi era are also still collected by lots of freaks...But I still don't understand the focus on that "brown period".

Greetings from Germany!
gutso

Ordinary Americans have long since forgotten what happened over 60 years ago and there is enough WWII guilt to go around for everybody. Nazi coins are now just a part of history and nobody I know has hard feelings for Germans today.

:smile:

gutso 02-07-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 501178)
I do like the looks of the Potsdam 5 mark coins. I just bagged this one for $15.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/472149-big.JPG

It's the key to that set. I know it's circulated but with a mintage of 244,000 I think it was a deal.

-1

Hi!

As far as I know, - in this grade of appearancy - its not worth 15$, perhaps 8-10$.

But I think that depends on the market situation, here you buy such coins in packets of 80-100 pieces, sort them and then sell what you don't need.

But in General: I would try to get such packages below the Silver Spot.

Otherwise, at least for me, that doesn't make any sense.
But I'll better be a bit more quiet.
Coins are not my special theme, I like more the Silver Valley Idaho and its tiny stock market.

If its physical, than it should be nice, too.

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Greetings from Germany,
gutso


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gutso 02-07-2007 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlil Gibran (Post 501218)
Ordinary Americans have long since forgotten what happened over 60 years ago and there is enough WWII guilt to go around for everybody. Nazi coins are now just a part of history and nobody I know has hard feelings for Germans today.

:smile:

OK - since I like Kahlil Gibran very much, its easier for me to treat that issue with more respect.

I won't nerve you here, anyway. Have fun. But think twice - and think at least one time, that every such coin perhaps laid in the hands of people, that could be just unlucky ancestors.


Have a good time!
gutso

Kahlil Gibran 02-07-2007 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gutso (Post 502338)
OK - since I like Kahlil Gibran very much, its easier for me to treat that issue with more respect.

I won't nerve you here, anyway. Have fun. But think twice - and think at least one time, that every such coin perhaps laid in the hands of people, that could be just unlucky ancestor.

Have a good time!
gutso

:wavey: Thanks for spreading the stain and curse of Holohoax Guilt upon all historical coins! Can you help us with buying more Nazi coins from Germany?

gutso 02-07-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlil Gibran (Post 502348)
:wavey: Thanks for spreading the stain and curse of Holohoax Guilt upon all historical coins! Can you help us with buying more Nazi coins from Germany?

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Kahlil Gibran 02-07-2007 06:18 PM

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:wavey: You might look into those great German optics gutso.

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negative1 02-07-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gutso (Post 502357)
No.

There could be money to be made. Just sell them on ebay.

You could be like this guy making money hand over fist.

Click

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negative1 02-07-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gutso (Post 502330)
Hi!

As far as I know, - in this grade of appearancy - its not worth 15$, perhaps 8-10$.

Can you put together 20 of the 1934-G Potsdam 5 mark (with 21 march 1933) coins for $8-$10 a coin? It is the lowest mintage of all the 5 mark swastika coins.

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gutso 02-08-2007 03:03 AM

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There could be money to be made. Just sell them on ebay.

You could be like this guy making money hand over fist.

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Hi!

No, I will further buy such coins, if I get them under the Silver Spot and they will end up as silver bars.
I am rather fond of Silver bars. :s1:

Some old silver-stocks went up and away, your good old Silver Valley Idaho may be is kissed by the markets to live again!
Mining in your Gem State maybe has got a great future again ... .
Did you see it, the Silver Eagle opens one eye!?
And you think of Nazi coins ...
:wink:

Greetings from Germany,
gutso

negative1 02-08-2007 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gutso (Post 502791)
Hi!

No, I will further buy such coins, if I get them under the Silver Spot and they will end up as silver bars.

So am I to assume that you won't be stamping a swastika on the silver bars? lol

It's ok if you melt them down and lose money when you could sell them on ebay for more (your choice). In the end melting will just drive up the prices of the coins already on the market.

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